Gus 4age20v
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Post by Gus 4age20v on May 31, 2011 11:36:24 GMT -5
Here is my plan o plan to spray a 100 shot on the 20v direct port injection and while in at it I plan to up the fuel air and exhaust I'm thinkin 450cc or 550cc and a walburo 255 fuel pump with trumpits and 2.5 stright pipe all the way back no mufler cat nothing and plan to get tune with a emanage anybody see any thing that u would do differently ? Will this setup last? How much power? I'm hoping for the 225 range?? Would I be ok with useing the emanage or should I go a differnt route with the managent? Wat are ur susgestions on this set up? Wat car can I get the injectors from?
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Post by sk149 on May 31, 2011 12:30:04 GMT -5
1jz injectors that's what Chiko got his to run e85 ... And for sprayin goes as long as you don't spray more than 50% of your hp than it's safe but make sure to get it tuned to be on the safe side if your gunna spray 100 shot and if you have full bolt ons and tune it you should easily see 230whp on the 100 ... Mine 20v has 2.5 pipping straight with just a resonator on a forza exhaust and its nice and quite on low Rpms and well up top all you hear is the trumpets scream lol
Oh and you might need a stage 2 clutch due to the fact that your clutch might start slipping when you spray ... That's if you have a stock clutch
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Post by brian on May 31, 2011 12:51:13 GMT -5
u would be fine without the 255lph pump for the 450's and 550's
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Post by Gus 4age20v on May 31, 2011 13:11:48 GMT -5
I was planion on gettin it tuned any way and wat engine managent should I go with?
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Post by hollywoodcorolla on May 31, 2011 14:28:13 GMT -5
and you do know the 20v is sidefeed injectors.... people have problems when thring to do direct to the injectors.... you best bet is dry... i know it suck b ut that life... and what motor you have 101 or 111.. cuz it makes a big difference on the amount you can spray on it due to the internals.. to go dry and get the most of it you will need to get a fpr custom intake. in jectors ae good up to 15lbs of boost pending on motor.. but wont hurt to get others.. which i have 2 sets laying around. and you will have to at least get a piggy back to set your timing. also make sure you have a good set of headers to increase the flow so you can have no jumps of afr when your pushinh the button. i spent only a good amount of money to do my turbo setup... but that wiull always be a problem working on a 20v... parts and rarety
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Post by Gus 4age20v on May 31, 2011 15:08:15 GMT -5
Its the silvertop and I reall wana go wet but if u think no I won't and I have an extra adapter plete for the itbs I was gunna get drilled for the nitrous injectors and witch piggyback system do u think would be my best bet. Andd I'm haven a custom header made when the exhaust gets done
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Post by hollywoodcorolla on May 31, 2011 15:37:26 GMT -5
i heard guys doing 75 on tuned bt... but thats really pushing the motor to hell. i would really do no more then. 50 but if you have a good tuner i would do no more then 70... but if your motor goes dont be surprised. and why do you need the adapter plate... you need an intake mani to mix air well. that plate would not improve that much on a low shot. since your running a afm and not a map. if you do the plate you will have to make sure you get them jet tested before you put them in to like what 12.5 shot on each one... will look good bu not the price to do it. just use single jet... less problems that could happen in future. and what kind of money you want to spend on standalone pends on what you get.
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Post by Gus 4age20v on May 31, 2011 17:20:15 GMT -5
I'm sayin I have that factory adapter plate that I could get the injectors mounted in but ur sayin to get a pletum made and go that direction and do a single jet? And I can have about 500 to spend on a managent system and wat size fuel injectors should I go with?? And it would be point less to get tuned just for nitrous I wana make it worth my while that's y I wana upgrade the fuel system... And do they make a aftermarket fuel rail for the 20v?
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Post by hollywoodcorolla on Jun 1, 2011 13:37:09 GMT -5
the stock fuel rail is great to start with. can handle to fuel flow. if you add injectors and spray you WILL NEED TO TUNE IT... but since you do have the stock intake stuff.. you can put one on each but personally not worth the money for the extra parts. ms is always a way to go.
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Post by Gus 4age20v on Jun 1, 2011 14:31:54 GMT -5
I was planning on tunning it to begin with so that's not a surprise and stock fuel rail is great and ready to roll and and personal opinion on injector I should use and u said no more then about a 75 shot max?
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Post by Wickedtoyz on Jun 1, 2011 15:02:15 GMT -5
dude i would turbo the damn thing for all the stuff your going through a turbo is all day fun.
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Post by mindbeats on Jun 1, 2011 15:07:43 GMT -5
Agreed
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Post by Gus 4age20v on Jun 1, 2011 15:35:17 GMT -5
But the hole point of me haven a toyota is to be differnet I would do a honda if I wanted to turbo I'm gunna build a motor to turbo in the next year but I wana have a little fun in the mea n time
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Post by mindbeats on Jun 1, 2011 18:36:41 GMT -5
true to each ones own. i dont really wanna turbo either. Im gonna buy everything needed for the 7age, build up the motor and keep it n/a
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Post by Wickedtoyz on Jun 1, 2011 19:42:22 GMT -5
But the hole point of me haven a toyota is to be differnet I would do a honda if I wanted to turbo I'm gunna build a motor to turbo in the next year but I wana have a little fun in the mea n time If you wanted to be different than you would have swapped in another motor and not a 20v like most of the guys on here. the turbo isn't overdone at all actually there isn't many around compared to NA ones. you want to be original? put an m62 or m90 supercharger on there and intercool it. the s/c will be running so cool and the power will be a smooth delivery. downside with a s/c that big you will need a larger pulley made to reduce the PSI it produces. So if you want to be different, be different. don't say your going to be and yet do the same.
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Post by mindbeats on Jun 1, 2011 20:05:31 GMT -5
dont knock him dude. bro just do it the way you want so ur happy no matter what anybody says. now build that ish!!!!!!!!!!!! But the hole point of me haven a toyota is to be differnet I would do a honda if I wanted to turbo I'm gunna build a motor to turbo in the next year but I wana have a little fun in the mea n time If you wanted to be different than you would have swapped in another motor and not a 20v like most of the guys on here. the turbo isn't overdone at all actually there isn't many around compared to NA ones. you want to be original? put an m62 or m90 supercharger on there and intercool it. the s/c will be running so cool and the power will be a smooth delivery. downside with a s/c that big you will need a larger pulley made to reduce the PSI it produces. So if you want to be different, be different. don't say your going to be and yet do the same.
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Post by Wickedtoyz on Jun 1, 2011 22:04:03 GMT -5
trust me I'm the last person to knock anyone. I'm open to any idea a person may have. Also I'm always thinking outside the box trying new ideas and new setups. ie: 1zz-fze using an sc14. but as per his words "But the hole point of me haven a toyota is to be differnet"
he has a 20v corolla......that's not different we have alot of members on here with that motor...I just installed one on 95rollas car. there is only one turbo 20v i know of and I built the down pipe and dump pipe for it. figure he'd want power constantly instead of having to fill up.
"I would do a honda if I wanted to turbo"
Unfortunately hondas started out with everyone doing the same swap repeatedly and now it has become mundane.
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Post by Gus 4age20v on Jun 1, 2011 22:06:22 GMT -5
No I sayin be differnt don't be a honda that's my hole deal the 20v isn't a big deal around here I don't know of a 20v corolla within about 300 miles of here and its more then just puttin a turbo on it u got to chane this and this ect.. U get my point I'm justsayin how many sprayed 20vs do u see ?? Or how many do u know of compared to how many are turboed man I wana do something differnet and unique that u don't see every day ya know I see turboed cars on a daily basis but u get my point and I am building another motor for turbo I'm actually gettin the block this weekend but that's going in a different car but any way back on topic wat is gunna be needed?
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Post by Gus 4age20v on Jun 1, 2011 22:13:00 GMT -5
But how many are u gunna see that look like mine gunna sound like mine going to have the same set up ect and it looks like that's how toyotas are gunna start all with the same swap ect.. But way ever it doesn't matter yes I have a 20v in my corolla so wat how many have true trd seats, how many have my wheels how many have my interior how many have my checkerboard engine bay how many have a carbon trunk lid (one other person pedro) but he's 1200 miles away lol so see I am different
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Post by Wickedtoyz on Jun 1, 2011 22:22:30 GMT -5
lol i know dude you will stand out in your area, i used to live on parris island, i was the only camry wagon with mods, so...I know about that lol.
listen to hollywoodrolla the guy knows his stuff and be conservative so you can enjoy your car longer.
remember the difference between your 20v on spray and a 7afe on spray is....the 7a can be replaced easier and for under 300 bucks lol ;D so be nice to that motor.
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